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BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List
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RHF
2011-02-16 10:30:17 UTC
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BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List

http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml

BBC-WS World-Wide Shortwave Radio Frequencies :
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Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
.
South Asia
* South Asia
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Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
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Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
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OOPS : No North & South America Listings
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More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Info
http://www.short-wave.info/
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~ RHF
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a***@webtv.net
2011-02-17 03:45:12 UTC
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BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml
 .
Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
 .
South Asia
* South Asia
 .
Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
 .
Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
 .
OOPS : No North & South America Listings
 .
More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/
 .
~ RHF
 .
 .
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
bpnjensen
2011-02-17 06:55:18 UTC
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BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml
 .
Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
 .
South Asia
* South Asia
 .
Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
 .
Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
 .
OOPS : No North & South America Listings
 .
More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/
 .
~ RHF
 .
 .
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
place :-)
Hils
2011-02-17 07:34:51 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
place :-)
"The axing of five foreign language services and wholesale retreat from
shortwave radio – including the end of broadcasts to India, Russia and
China – will lead to the loss of more than 30 million listeners, a sixth
of the World Service's global audience of 180 million, the BBC
estimates. The five language services being shut down – Portuguese for
Africa, Caribbean English, Macedonian, Serbian and Albanian – have a
combined audience of 3.4 million."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-response

(The UK Foreign Office has cut World Service funding by 16%.)
dave
2011-02-17 13:23:47 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
place :-)
"The axing of five foreign language services and wholesale retreat from
shortwave radio – including the end of broadcasts to India, Russia and
China – will lead to the loss of more than 30 million listeners, a sixth
of the World Service's global audience of 180 million, the BBC
estimates. The five language services being shut down – Portuguese for
Africa, Caribbean English, Macedonian, Serbian and Albanian – have a
combined audience of 3.4 million."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-response
(The UK Foreign Office has cut World Service funding by 16%.)
Caribbean English WTF? Good riddance! I can't feature Jamaicans
listening to scratchy shortwave broadcasts so some snooty Englishman can
talk down to them in Pidgin English.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-17 18:48:25 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
Does not bother me. The fewer loud signals from doorstep transmitters
I have clogging up my airwaves, the better to hear the faint DX. BBC
is available from so many outlets now that I can forego them
broadcasting at my house from Sackville or Greenville or some such
place :-)
"The axing of five foreign language services and wholesale retreat from
shortwave radio – including the end of broadcasts to India, Russia and
China – will lead to the loss of more than 30 million listeners, a sixth
of the World Service's global audience of 180 million, the BBC
estimates. The five language services being shut down – Portuguese for
Africa, Caribbean English, Macedonian, Serbian and Albanian – have a
combined audience of 3.4 million."
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2011/jan/28/bbc-world-service-cuts-re...
(The UK Foreign Office has cut World Service funding by 16%.)
Caribbean English WTF? Good riddance! I can't feature Jamaicans
listening to scratchy shortwave broadcasts so some snooty Englishman can
talk down to them in Pidgin English.- Hide quoted text -
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Each area of the Carribean has developed it's own dialect of English .
None of them are classified as pidgin,absolutely not . And BBC-WS
always had a strong presence on AM and FM locally until recently, not
exactly sure what is happening at the present time .
dave
2011-02-17 13:14:13 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
bpnjensen
2011-02-17 15:55:33 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
Of which I am included in the last :-)
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-17 18:37:36 UTC
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Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
dxAce
2011-02-17 18:47:44 UTC
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Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Rickmers is known to have *issues*.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-17 18:49:56 UTC
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Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Rickmers is known to have *issues*.
That is VERY obvious .
dave
2011-02-17 19:55:00 UTC
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Post by dave
Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Rickmers is known to have *issues*.
Nothing a damn lighter won't cure...
dave
2011-02-17 19:51:34 UTC
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Post by dave
Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Ya think? The only reason I ever listened was for the content (there are
rarer catches than 500,000 KW Radio Moscow.) Now that the content is
available by other means, I don't have to tie up a $2,000 radio to
listen to the news.
bpnjensen
2011-02-17 19:54:43 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Ya think? The only reason I ever listened was for the content (there are
rarer catches than 500,000 KW Radio Moscow.) Now that the content is
available by other means, I don't have to tie up a $2,000 radio to
listen to the news.
I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
dave
2011-02-17 22:00:00 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
bpnjensen
2011-02-17 22:34:08 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
dxAce
2011-02-17 22:51:38 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.

To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.

dxAce
Michigan
USA
dxAce
2011-02-17 23:02:36 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
BTW, Aoki shows 4005 as 10 kW.
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dxAce
Michigan
USA
dxAce
2011-02-17 23:14:28 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
BTW, Aoki shows 4005 as 10 kW.
I can hear 4005 (under heavy RTTY QRM) here at 2310.
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dxAce
Michigan
USA
bpnjensen
2011-02-18 04:57:09 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
BTW, Aoki shows 4005 as 10 kW.
I can hear 4005 (under heavy RTTY QRM) here at 2310.
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dxAce
Michigan
USA
That may be my case as well - once in a great while.
bpnjensen
2011-02-18 04:56:41 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
Understood. I may have heard it once or twice, but right now there's
a potent RTTY or some such thing right on top of that frequency 24/7.
bpnjensen
2011-02-18 04:58:49 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
dxAce
2011-02-18 10:48:06 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?
bpnjensen
2011-02-18 16:01:53 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -
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I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business. Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-19 04:22:56 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business.  Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .
bpnjensen
2011-02-19 05:35:00 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business.  Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .
RAI was pretty strong in 2002...but they were not paying attention to
reports any more, either by snail mail or e-mail.
dxAce
2011-02-19 11:48:31 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business. Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .
RAI was pretty strong in 2002...but they were not paying attention to
reports any more, either by snail mail or e-mail.
I've seen some info that indicates that they sent out some cards after 2002, but it seems as
though they were generic n/d cards.
bpnjensen
2011-02-19 05:37:10 UTC
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Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ? RAI always had a weak signal
as compared to the rest of European powerhouses .
Looks like DW had the "Cyclops" relay there until 1996 -

http://www.tdp.info/mlt.html
dxAce
2011-02-19 12:24:29 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
...but they gave me a Santa Maria Galliera QSL for that report :-)
Santa Maria di Galeria is kind of extraterritorial from Vatican City itself,
however NASWA does count it as Vatican City.
To 'actually hear' Vatican City, one must hear the Citta del Vaticano site, on
4005, which I think is the only frequency in use these days, at various times.
dxAce
Michigan
USA
FWIW, I also do not have a RAI Italy QSL (Back when they still
broadcast, they never replied to my reports), so either way I'm good
with it.
Do you remember when RAI broadcast from Sicily as well?- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
I've been using SW for about 40 years; but I don't recall TX location
details of European stations very well from that time, except who was
in business. Sicily would be fun, as would Malta and Corsica.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Didn't Malta have a BBC relay station ?
Not sure about BBC, but Deutsche Welle certainly had a relay station.

I have QSL's from IBRA Radio which I think used the DW station, as well as Xandir Malta
which used 9670 back in 1982 for their "Malta Calling" program.

I think Libya also used Malta as a relay for a time as I think I have a QSL for that as
well.

dxAce
Michigan
USA
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 04:56:10 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
You mean Middle Aged or just senile ?
dave
2011-02-18 14:03:56 UTC
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I first heard about the Chilean earthquake last year on Vatican Radio,
from the Vatican.
I suspect I heard it on the BBC or saw it on a Chyron somewhere. The
Vatican gives me the creeps. They are very dark.
You mean Middle Aged or just senile ?
I mean using superstition to manipulate people; play with fire darkness.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 04:54:00 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Ya think? The only reason I ever listened was for the content (there are
rarer catches than 500,000 KW Radio Moscow.) Now that the content is
available by other means, I don't have to tie up a $2,000 radio to
listen to the news.
Well,well,well. Some of us have radios that are priceless,yet it is
not very polite to brag about it ... This is how I look at it .
dave
2011-02-18 14:02:13 UTC
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BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams at the touch of a
button on a WiFi radio about the same footprint of an ICF-SW12. The only
people who listen to HFBC in Region 2 are end-timers, survivalists and
other antisocial types.
This is an extremely derogatory statement !
Ya think? The only reason I ever listened was for the content (there are
rarer catches than 500,000 KW Radio Moscow.) Now that the content is
available by other means, I don't have to tie up a $2,000 radio to
listen to the news.
Well,well,well. Some of us have radios that are priceless,yet it is
not very polite to brag about it ... This is how I look at it .
Not priceless, $2,000. I have spent maybe $4,000 total my whole life on
radio hobby stuff. Two years ago I had a Drake I bought with inheritance
and sold for cash. Then I had a Ten-Tec 516 while I got my feet wet in 2
way HF. Then I sold that, put in some Xmas bonus money, and got the
Elecraft, because I don't expect to be around for Cycle 25. This is my
last Solar Max and I'm not going through it without adequate equipment.
I deserve to be spoiled. I've earned it. I am not wealthy by any means.
Since I quit smoking 11 years ago I spend the $200 a month on fun
stuff, as a reward.

"Sometimes you gotta just say "what the fuck"
-Tom Cruise
RHF
2011-02-19 11:10:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by a***@webtv.net
BBC-WS obviously doesn't view us as 'worthy' listeners . Sadly
enough ...
- HF Broadcast is dead. I get 2 BBCWS audio streams
- at the touch of a button on a WiFi radio about the same
- footprint of an ICF-SW12.

-ps- Then One Wonders Why 'Special-Dave' : You Post
To A Shortwave Radio Listeners [SWL] Newsgroup . . .

Wouldn't an "Internet Radio" Newsgroup be more to you liking. . .
http://groups.google.com/groups/dir?sel=usenet%3Dalt.radio.internet
.
.
- The only people who listen to HFBC in Region 2
- are end-timers, survivalists and other antisocial types.

Dang 'Special-Dave' : Don't Be So Hard On Your-Selfs ;;-}}

Dave : To Me There Is and Always Will Be A 'Flavor'
{Imperfection} That Defines Shortwave Radio Listening
[SWL] and Meeting The Challenge of Listening When
It Ain't Easy {Because You Can & Because You Will It}
The Actual Sound of a Distant Voice From Beyond . . .
-is- Music Fading In-and-Out To My Ears ~ RHF
.
Dave -wrt- 'other antisocial types' within the realm of
Amateur [Ham} Radio with AM & SSB Voice and CW
Mode; where the Opps actually have a Conversation
between each other : Isn't the PSK Logger/Report Opp
sort of one of the ''other antisocial types' too . . .
-especially-when-they-have-the-computer-do-all-the-work-
-in-stand-by-and-remote-and-are-not-in-the-radio-shack-
Sort of Takes The Human Out of Amateur [Ham} Radio
.
IMHO : Not much Fun in trying to Listen to both sides
of the 'digital' "buzz" of a PSK Exchange.
-where-as-
The Conversation between two Humans : It Sounds So...
REAL -and- You Can Understand It To -no-pc-required-
-ps- even the sound of a cw exchange has a discernible
'tone' to both sides when you actively listen.
-again-no-pc-required-
.
.
dave
2011-02-19 13:52:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
.
Dave -wrt- 'other antisocial types' within the realm of
Amateur [Ham} Radio with AM& SSB Voice and CW
Mode; where the Opps actually have a Conversation
between each other : Isn't the PSK Logger/Report Opp
sort of one of the ''other antisocial types' too . . .
-especially-when-they-have-the-computer-do-all-the-work-
-in-stand-by-and-remote-and-are-not-in-the-radio-shack-
Sort of Takes The Human Out of Amateur [Ham} Radio
.
IMHO : Not much Fun in trying to Listen to both sides
of the 'digital' "buzz" of a PSK Exchange.
You don't listen (although it is quite musical); you see text printed on
your computer screen.

My internet radio uses WiFi to connect to the web.

I have 2 HF radios on right now, one on 7035 the the other on 10140. I
have a BCT* winking away in my face, and yes I'm listening to the Beeb
via the web. So fuck you.
RHF
2011-02-18 00:30:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml
 .
Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
 .
South Asia
* South Asia
 .
Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
 .
Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
 .
OOPS : No North & South America Listings
 .
More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/
 .
~ RHF
 .
 .
I will 'note' that a 'web-search' for BBC Shortwave and
BBC Radio Frequencies now does produce -results-
that lead to the BBC Shortwave Frequencies.

A year or two ago that was not true. You had to dig
to find a link to them. ~ RHF
.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 05:07:51 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
Post by RHF
BBC World Service Shortwave Radio Frequencies List
http://www.bbc.co.uk/worldservice/schedules/frequencies/index.shtml
 .
Europe & Africa
* Western Russia
* West & Central Africa
* East Africa
* South Africa
 .
South Asia
* South Asia
 .
Asia Pacific
* East Asia
* South East Asia
 .
Middle East
* Middle East & Gulf
* Afghanistan & Iran
 .
OOPS : No North & South America Listings
 .
More BBC-WS in "English" Frequencies and Times
can be found at : Short-Wave .Infohttp://www.short-wave.info/
 .
~ RHF
 .
 .
I will 'note' that a 'web-search' for BBC Shortwave and
BBC Radio Frequencies now does produce -results-
that lead to the BBC Shortwave Frequencies.
A year or two ago that was not true.  You had to dig
to find a link to them. ~ RHF
 .- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East . Internet can
be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 05:24:05 UTC
Permalink
Turn the internet off in America and see what happens! There would be
'Egypts' All Over America, BIG TIME!

Homeless Now Defecating on Waikiki Beach.
http://www.rense.com

That's because they can't find the 'birth certificate.

Knock! Knock!
///Whos there?!!!!///
Kenya
///Kenya who!!!!!??///
Kenya show me the birth certificate?
cuhulin
dave
2011-02-18 14:09:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by a***@webtv.net
This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East . Internet can
be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international medium not subject
to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
D@LS
2011-02-18 15:24:33 UTC
Permalink
Post by dave
Post by a***@webtv.net
This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East . Internet can
be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international medium not subject
to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
Damn Straight !
And if you have a microwave gun you know where to point it.
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 16:02:22 UTC
Permalink
You can turn old, or new, Microwave ovens into Weapons.I once saw a
website how to do that.

Do you remember the Amana Radar Range? In World War Two in England, some
Americans were setting up a Radar.They had it set on too much power, or
aimed too low/whatever.The nails in that old wooden Aircraft hanger
started getting hot and popping.

http://www.devilfinder.com
How to get any PC, new or old, ready for everyday use Popular Science
cuhulin
dave
2011-02-18 16:28:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by c***@webtv.net
You can turn old, or new, Microwave ovens into Weapons.I once saw a
website how to do that.
Do you remember the Amana Radar Range? In World War Two in England, some
Americans were setting up a Radar.They had it set on too much power, or
aimed too low/whatever.The nails in that old wooden Aircraft hanger
started getting hot and popping.
http://www.devilfinder.com
How to get any PC, new or old, ready for everyday use Popular Science
cuhulin
My 43 foot fiberglass telescoping mast has RF friendly hardware, in case
I decide to put more than 4 Watts into the #12 solid copper wire up the
middle.
bpnjensen
2011-02-18 16:40:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by dave
Post by c***@webtv.net
You can turn old, or new, Microwave ovens into Weapons.I once saw a
website how to do that.
Do you remember the Amana Radar Range? In World War Two in England, some
Americans were setting up a Radar.They had it set on too much power, or
aimed too low/whatever.The nails in that old wooden Aircraft hanger
started getting hot and popping.
http://www.devilfinder.com
How to get any PC, new or old, ready for everyday use Popular Science
cuhulin
My 43 foot fiberglass telescoping mast has RF friendly hardware, in case
I decide to put more than 4 Watts into the #12 solid copper wire up the
middle.
We enjoyed popping popcorn with our meteorological radar at Texas Tech
(just kidding ;-)
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 17:56:46 UTC
Permalink
When those Top Queers got their asses handed to them in that little Town
in Alabama! (Miami to N'Awlins road trip) BBC America tee vee channel.
is GOOD!, them Top Queer Queers 'Got out of Dodge!'
cuhulin
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-18 16:32:46 UTC
Permalink
http://www.devilfinder.com/find.php?q=Software+will+let+users+dodge+government+internet+censorship+techweb.com
cuhulin, Don't Censor My Arse!
RHF
2011-02-19 10:17:11 UTC
Permalink
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .

- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!

The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switch
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The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switch
http://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch-plan-approved-by-us-senate-panel/
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
.
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internet
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-
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Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'
http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-
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Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internet
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iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafe
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Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}
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Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}
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That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !
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Ron
2011-02-19 16:18:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch". Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress. The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended. Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.

See:

http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNews&ContentRecord_id=e3633456-5056-8059-7606-
849a53cbff1a

"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth. We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."

The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
bpnjensen
2011-02-19 17:55:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D
Kevin Alfred Strom
2011-02-19 18:54:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by bpnjensen
Post by Ron
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
.
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
.
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
.
Prez Obama The New& Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
.
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
.
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
.
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
.
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
.
.
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
.
.
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch". Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress. The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended. Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth. We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D
From:

http://www.internetindustrywatch.com/2011/02/internet-kill-switches-big-time-and-small-time/

"In the U.S., Sen. Joe Lieberman (pictured) has drafted, with the
administration’s support, the “Protecting Cyberspace as a National
Asset Act” — a wide-ranging and unprecedented set of legal powers
that would give the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the
authority to regulate, restrict, reroute, or completely cut off
Internet traffic in the U.S. Still, the debunkers say that that’s
still not a “kill switch.” Free speech advocates call that
quibbling, and counter that technological ability follows soon after
legal authority."...

"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so
benign, why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review
of executive branch shutdown orders by the courts?"


With all good wishes,


Kevin, WB4AIO.
--
http://nationalvanguard.org/
http://kevinalfredstrom.com/
dave
2011-02-19 20:00:22 UTC
Permalink
"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so benign,
why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review of executive
branch shutdown orders by the courts?"
With all good wishes,
Kevin, WB4AIO.
http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2011/01/tunisia-egypt-miami-the-importance-of-internet-choke-points/70415/
D. Peter Maus
2011-02-19 22:13:58 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kevin Alfred Strom
Post by bpnjensen
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill
Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
.
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill
Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
.
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your
Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
.
Prez Obama The New& Improved Internet
'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
.
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The
Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
.
iObama Is iSecure and You Are
iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
.
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure
{Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
.
Prez Obama a Return to G'0'
{Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
.
.
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet
!http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
.
.
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch". Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress. The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended. Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth. We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D
http://www.internetindustrywatch.com/2011/02/internet-kill-switches-big-time-and-small-time/
"In the U.S., Sen. Joe Lieberman (pictured) has drafted, with the
administration’s support, the “Protecting Cyberspace as a National
Asset Act” — a wide-ranging and unprecedented set of legal powers
that would give the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS) the
authority to regulate, restrict, reroute, or completely cut off
Internet traffic in the U.S. Still, the debunkers say that that’s
still not a “kill switch.” Free speech advocates call that
quibbling, and counter that technological ability follows soon after
legal authority."...
"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so
benign, why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review
of executive branch shutdown orders by the courts?"
Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.
dave
2011-02-19 23:25:29 UTC
Permalink
Post by D. Peter Maus
Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.
Whatever that means.
RHF
2011-02-20 06:39:41 UTC
Permalink
- - Because checks and balances are anathema to Power.

- Whatever that means.

'Special-Dave' : It Means You are "Special" ;;-}} ~ RHF

"But critics ask: If the authority is really intended to be so
benign, why is there is provision in the bill forbidding any review
of executive branch shutdown orders by the courts?"

One Any Law That Prohibits It's Application and Execution
from "Judicial Review" By The US Federals Courts Is
Un-Constitutional As Written [.]

One Any Law That Prohibits It's Application and Execution
from "Congressional Oversight" By The US Congress Is
Un-Constitutional As Written [.]

The US Constitution Requires and Demands a Three-Party
System of : Governmental Checks-and-Balances [.]

Just Say "NO" To Obama-UN-Ism© and yes,,, Yes...
YES ! ! ! To All American Constitutional-ism ~ RHF
.
A Government 'Of' The People -not-a-president-for-life-
.
A Government 'For' The People -not-a-presidential-over-lord-
.
A Government 'By' The People -not-a-elitist-dictator-
.
.
RHF
2011-02-20 07:02:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
- But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D

BpnJ - It Ain't Fear Mongering : If It's True.
-it's-all-too-very-true-
.
The Great and Wonderful Obama "Internet Kill Switch"
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/15edae50dc8efce1
.
Baracking Prez "BO" ! {Obama}
Bring Down The Obama Regime
& Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f018
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8bede4ec17ad2a65
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ac73dc7bb21e640f
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3717a455d22b0577
.
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
.
-but- IMHO : Barack H. Obama 'the man' is a NICE Man
and a GOOD American : Just Not a Leader of Presidential
Stature and Ability*. {Weak & Inapt & Ineffective}
* Maybe It's His White House {Wall Street Insiders} Team ?
Conclusion -wrt- Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama}
SEND "BO" HOME TO CHICAGO, IL in 2012 !
"BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks !
.
Jimmy Carter as the US Prez-A-Duntz lost Iran :
Due to his Inaptness and Lack of Leadership.
.
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership :
http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
.
.
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-20 07:56:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
- But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D
BpnJ - It Ain't Fear Mongering : If It's True.
-it's-all-too-very-true-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama "Internet Kill Switch"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/15edae50dc8efce1
 .
Baracking Prez "BO" ! {Obama}
Bring Down The Obama Regime
& Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f018http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/8bede4ec17ad2a65http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/ac73dc7bb21e640fhttp://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/3717a455d22b0577
 .
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
 .
-but- IMHO : Barack H. Obama 'the man' is a NICE Man
and a GOOD American : Just Not a Leader of Presidential
Stature and Ability*. {Weak & Inapt & Ineffective}
* Maybe It's His White House {Wall Street Insiders} Team ?
Conclusion -wrt- Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama}
SEND "BO" HOME TO CHICAGO, IL in 2012 !
"BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks !
 .
Due to his Inaptness and Lack of Leadership.
 .
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership :http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain :  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
 .
 .- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .
Brenda Ann
2011-02-20 09:31:50 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership
:http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
.
.- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .


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Aside from that, Obama is not the leader of any of those countries, and has
virtually no say in those country's internal affairs (nor SHOULD he.)
a***@webtv.net
2011-02-20 09:45:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by a***@webtv.net
Post by RHF
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership
:http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain :  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
 .
 .- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ? And an
approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------­-----
Aside from that, Obama is not the leader of any of those countries, and has
virtually no say in those country's internal affairs (nor SHOULD he.)- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
BHO has ENOUGH headaches at home .
RHF
2011-02-20 10:06:09 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
- But fearmongering is fun and *so profitable*!!! :-D
BpnJ - It Ain't Fear Mongering : If It's True.
-it's-all-too-very-true-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama "Internet Kill Switch"http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/15edae50dc8efce1
 .
Baracking Prez "BO" ! {Obama}
Bring Down The Obama Regime
& Send "BO" -aka-'Stinky' Home in 2012 !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/6e41bc3892d4f0...
 .
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
 .
-but- IMHO : Barack H. Obama 'the man' is a NICE Man
and a GOOD American : Just Not a Leader of Presidential
Stature and Ability*. {Weak & Inapt & Ineffective}
* Maybe It's His White House {Wall Street Insiders} Team ?
Conclusion -wrt- Prez-A-Duntz "BO" {Obama}
SEND "BO" HOME TO CHICAGO, IL in 2012 !
"BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks ! = "BO" Stinks !
 .
Due to his Inaptness and Lack of Leadership.
 .
Barack Obama as the US Prez-A-Duntz Losing {Giving Away}
the Entire Muslim/Arab Middle East : Due to "BO"s Weakness,
Inaptness and Lack of Strong Leadership :http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/meast/02/19/mideast.africa.unrest/
* Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Lybia : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
* Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
* Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
* Yeman : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
* Bahrain :  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama +  Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
 .
 .- Hide quoted text -
- Show quoted text -
- Why one cannot compare BHO to his immediate predecessor ?

That's Right We Have To Compare Obama to Carter :
Just to have them both on the same 'relative' Scale
of TOTAL FAILURE as a US Prez-A-Duntz.
-failure--failure-failure-failure-failure-failure-failure-
.
- And an approximate ratio ( at least 64X ) of negative units .

Isn't Down-Grading Obama 64 Points Below Bush
Overdoing It A Bit Too Much . . . ;;-}}

? Question ? : -history-fact-check-
How Many of America's Allies {Client-States} Did
former prez Bush's : Weakness & Inaptness &
Not Being A Strong Leader Directly Cause Their
Governments To Fall . . .
Let's Make a List :
Ah # 1 was . . . .
.
? Question ? : -history-in-the-making-fact-check-
Where-As Prez Obama's : Weakness & Inaptness &
Not Being A Strong Leader Has/Is/Will Directly Cause
These Governments To Fall . . .
1 - Tunisia : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
2 - Algeria : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
3 - Libya : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
4 - Egypt : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
5 - Lebanon : Blame Obama {It's Obama's Fault}
6 - Jordan : Blame Obama {Obama's Weak}
7 - Syria : Blame Obama {Obama's Inapt}
8 - Yemen : Blame Obama {Obama's No Strong Leader}
9 - Bahrain : Blame Obama + Blame Obama + Blame Obama
-cause- Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter
* Russia Knows It !
* China Knows It !
* Saudi Arabia Knows It !
* Iran Knows It !
* Israel Knows It !
* All the Euro-Landers Know It !
* The World Now Knows It
PREZ OBAMA IS WEAK & INAPT & NOT A STRONG LEADER
.
.
Obama Is Eight-Times [8X] Worse That Carter :
Weak & Inapt & No Strong Leader
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/bec9611a59020153
.
.
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-20 14:22:12 UTC
Permalink
I already knew about siprnet, now I have to look up niprnet.

You got to NIP it Andy, NIP it in the bud!~ Barney - The Andy Griffith
Show.

The Born in Kenya MOFO has NO Right to say or do Anything in U.S.A.
cuhulin
c***@webtv.net
2011-02-20 15:20:09 UTC
Permalink
USAF Orderd Software To Manage Army Of Fake People
http://www.rense.com
cuhulin

RHF
2011-02-20 05:43:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
 .
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
 .
We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
 .
Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
 .
Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
 .
iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
 .
Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
 .
Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
 .
 .
That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
 .
 .
.
.
It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
- The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.

RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now
Admit Obama-Care Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

The "Internet Kill Switch" Prez "BO"s {Obama's}
Hand Will Be On It
-marking-the-death-of-internet-freedom-

Blame Obama He's The Prez-A-Duntz

Blame Obama He Promised Hope
-and- We Are Hopeless

Blame Obama He Promised Change
-and- Nothing Has Changed
Obama -is- Bush & Bush -was- Obama
.
Yeah the Obama-Care Death Panels
Blame Obama For Them Too !
* Higher Taxes
* Higher Health Care Costs
* Lower Medical Benefits
* Reduced Hospital Treatment
* Death By Big Government Controls

? Did I Say "Blame Obama" !
{good}
? Did I Write "Blame Obama" !
{gooder}
.
Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservatives
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
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Ron
2011-02-20 09:03:33 UTC
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Post by RHF
- - This may be due to the recent events in the Middle East .
- - Internet can be turned off instantly, as we just witnessed .
- Soon, ham radio is going to be the only international
- medium not subject to a "kill switch". Fight BPL!
The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://www.freakingnews.com/pictures/73000/Internet-Kill-Switch--7332...
-praise-be-'the-obama'-lord-of-the-internet-
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The Great and Wonderful Obama Internet Kill Switchhttp://news.techworld.com/security/3228198/obama-internet-kill-switch...
-his-eye-is-on-the-red-'kill-switch'--and-he-watches-
-[spys}-over-you-and-you-and-you...-
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We Are 'The Obama' : We Control Your Internethttp://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2011/01/kill-switch-legislation/
-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-trust-me-we-are-here-to-help-http://www.datelinezero.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/Government_Her...
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Prez Obama The New & Improved Internet 'God'http://news.cnet.com/8301-31921_3-20029282-281.html
-your-servers-will-bow-down-before-me-http://i.current.com/images/asset/906/074/26/4pEJtE.jpg
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Prez "BO" {Obama} Locking Down The Internethttp://www.obamasocialist.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/obama-kill-s...
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iObama Is iSecure and You Are iSafehttp://www.thelibertyvoice.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/internet-lo...
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Prez Obama Making You Safe Secure {Controlled}http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xvI9Re2MH9s/SrHH2qj9eTI/AAAAAAAAHgc/-SkwMaW...
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Prez Obama a Return to G'0' {Zero}http://www.siliconrepublic.com/fs/img/news/201101/rs-426x288/iphonelo...
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That Something Extra (o: Just for the Fun of It :o)
How the FCC Logs-On to the Internet !http://www.bartcop.com/fcc-logs-in.jpg
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It ain't "Obama's" idea and it ain't a "Kill Switch".  Lieberman
introduced the bill to which you refer, in the 111th Congress.  The
bill died in committee and was wiped off the books when the 111th
ended.  Lieberman has introduced Bill S. 413 in a second attempt.
http://hsgac.senate.gov/public/index.cfm?FuseAction=Press.MajorityNew...
849a53cbff1a
"Lieberman: "Yet, some have suggested that our legislation would
empower the President to deny U.S. citizens access to the Internet.
Nothing could be further from the truth.  We would never sign on to
legislation that authorized the President, or anyone else, to shut
down the Internet. Emergency or no, the exercise of such broad
authority would be an affront to our Constitution."
- The Kill Switch falls into the same category as Death Panels.
RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now
Admit Obama-Care Death Panels Exist -we-agree-
The "Internet Kill Switch" Prez "BO"s {Obama's}
Hand Will Be On It
-marking-the-death-of-internet-freedom-
Blame Obama He's The Prez-A-Duntz
Blame Obama He Promised Hope
-and- We Are Hopeless
Blame Obama He Promised Change
-and- Nothing Has Changed
Obama -is- Bush & Bush -was- Obama
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Yeah the Obama-Care Death Panels
Blame Obama For Them Too !
* Higher Taxes
* Higher Health Care Costs
* Lower Medical Benefits
* Reduced Hospital Treatment
* Death By Big Government Controls
? Did I Say "Blame Obama" !
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? Did I Write "Blame Obama" !
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Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !
"Rules for Radicals" in the Hands of Conservativeshttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rules_for_Radicals
The Baracking© of Prez Obama and the Obama-Regime©
has begun : Bring-on the Ugly Dogs of Fear and Hate !
-wrt- Baracking© - Shouting the Liberal Democrat Left's
Hateful and Divisive Rhetoric* Back-In-Their-Face
* Baracking© = Obama-Bashing© = Blaming Prez Obama !http://groups.google.com/group/rec.radio.shortwave/msg/fea00130443e55ff
* "BO"ing© = "BO"-Bashing© = Blaming Prez "BO" !
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Re: RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now Admit Obama-Care
Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

No, NumbNads. Neither one is real. You didn't read ANY of the
comments by Lieberman.
Brenda Ann
2011-02-20 09:37:56 UTC
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"Ron" wrote in message news:063dd7fa-8710-4483-9777-***@s11g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
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Re: RON : So Like the Internet Kill Switch You Now Admit Obama-Care
Death Panels Exist -we-agree-

No, NumbNads. Neither one is real. You didn't read ANY of the
comments by Lieberman.


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All that I have personally read about this "kill switch" denotes that it
applies only to US government assets. i.e. the ability to disconnect the
entire federal government from the internet in the event of an attempted
massive cyber attack. The military already has a separate network that does
not use normal internet links (SIPRNET), along with their normal network
(NIPRNET). The plan is to apparently build such an alternate network for all
government agencies. Basically, if the throw the switch, it would leave the
World Wide Web undisturbed, other than we would no longer have access to
.gov websites.
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